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Zone Chat Log 05/10/2000
+MrQuazarr@Zone> *** WELCOME TO THE AC DEVELOPER'S CHAT *** We will get started at 5 pm Pacific
+MrQuazarr@Zone> *** THE AC DEVELOPER'S CHAT WILL BEGIN IN ABOUT 5 MINUTES ***
+MrQuazarr@Zone> *************************************************************
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Welcome to the monthly AC Developer's Chat.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> I would like to remind everyone of a few ground rules before we get started:
+MrQuazarr@Zone> 1.Please have your question pre-typed in notepad and ready to cut and paste when your turn arrives. This helps us get through as many people as possible.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> 2. Please limit your questions to one per turn. If you ask more then one, the developers will simply take your first question.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Before we get started, I wanted to address something that is on most people's minds I am sure:
+MrQuazarr@Zone> We know that there is something affecting the game play during peak hours and in certain areas that is not internet connectivity/router related.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> This is our number one priority to address right now and we hope to have it resolved soon.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Watch the State of the Code for more details as we progress on the issue.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Thanks for your patience!
+MrQuazarr@Zone> With that said, I would like to introduce the Co-Lead Designer of Asheron's Call, Eri Izawa! Take it away Eri!
rei@Turbine> Hi all :)
rei@Turbine> I'm Eri "reijin" Izawa, co-lead designer for Asheron's Call and general spec shuffler.
rei@Turbine> With me tonight are:
rei@Turbine> Jesse "Nei Nerfsubmaster" Kurlancheek, game designer, scripter, nerfer, general systems guy.
rei@Turbine> (He's nei, I'm rei)
rei@Turbine> David "Sausage King of Dereth" Javier, game designer, sausage maker, and dialogue meister, will be speaking via Jesse tonight...
rei@Turbine> Chris "Stormy" L'Etoile, cranky game designer, story writer, and general all-round Frore lord.
rei@Turbine> Sean "artist extraordinaire" Huxter, lead artist, is also with us tonight.
rei@Turbine> Chris "Slapp" Foster, lead designer for Asheron's Call, will hopefully be joining us later.
rei@Turbine> First of all, thanks for coming! I have some things I'd like to explain about how we answer your questions.
rei@Turbine> To give you an idea of our schedule, we are already hard at work on the June event. So we can with some confidence answer questions about that material (though we won't give away all the secrets ;-).
rei@Turbine> That said, we usually cannot give you concrete dates or feature details for anything new beyond one or two months out.
rei@Turbine> This is because of many factors, including the experimental nature of events, schedule changes, and the fact that something that looks simple may turn out to be very complicated or even impossible!
rei@Turbine> In other words, promising specifics for many of your suggestions would be premature. We don't like promising things we might not be able to deliver.
rei@Turbine> Also, because we have so much planned, new requests on the boards or from here may not be implemented til some time after the suggestion is made.
rei@Turbine> But I want to assure you that we are listening! The spellcasting UI changes happened in large part because of your suggestions at a chat much like this one some months ago.
rei@Turbine> Again, thanks for coming!
rei@Turbine> Done.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Alright... lets go ahead and get right into the questions.
NightWolf_ES> ken, you nerfed me! I had a big essay on the Lag issue. =]
NightWolf_ES> anyway.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> LOL.. Sorry
NightWolf_ES> What are the EXACT changes that are going to be made to specialized skills.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Wanted to make sure you all knew we were very aware of it and working like madmen on it
NightWolf_ES> I know
NightWolf_ES> I was at the Zone chat last night
nei@turbine> the spec change... numbers near and dear to me.
nei@turbine> i can't give you exacts yet - but what you'll see is that towards higher lvls, the difference between trained and spec'd will become more noticable.
nei@turbine> to clear things up around existing people
nei@turbine> if the spec change touches you, your skills will be upgraded to the new levels - ie you'll get bumped forward. tasty!
nei@turbine> done.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Hi Darroth.
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Darroth, do y ou have a question for the team?
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Hi Leviathen.
Leviathen1> Speaking as a high level Sword user I feel that melee *can* be quite powerful, However I also feel that both life, item, and eventually creature is needed to acheve this power....
Leviathen1> hi
Leviathen1> I understand Turbine's stance of not wanting to promote flavor of the week charecters, and thus not allowing skill sellback.
Leviathen1> But I also feel that those of us that trained an attack kill other than our heritage skill should be allowed to untrain our unused unwanted heritage melee skill, since for many this would be
Leviathen1> the difference between getting a skill at 35 instead of 55. Which turbine dev's do we need to begin to send things to in the name of the fund to untrain our useless heritage skills? [GA]
Leviathen1> /me waves hi
rei@Turbine> One comment is that the heritage skills are freebie bonuses ... though I understand they may not feel that way.
rei@Turbine> Your actual question is to whom do you send these things to ....
rei@Turbine> But you have shortcircuited the process, as we are listening here & now.
rei@Turbine> We will take your suggestions and seriously consider them.
rei@Turbine> The skill "sell back" idea has not been killed completely, but it is not something being acted upon yet.
rei@Turbine> Done.
__THE_WRATH__> Hello, I gotta say this is a great game, just got some concerns about mages and future updates for them.
__THE_WRATH__> I come before you today on behalf of all the disgruntled mages upset with the tyranny that is against us. For many months now we have been asking for an update for our kind, and have received nothing. The new spellbar probably would have passified...
__THE_WRATH__> us if sword swingers had not only recieved a new type of sword, but a new varience which makes them even more powerful, and to make it worse, the accidental inclusion of the "experimental code" which is obviously designed to discourage life mages,...
__THE_WRATH__> s yet another example of the contempt for our kind. We are tired of hearing that "our time will come soon". We want answers. Give us a date. If our time is not until September, let us know, so we can do other things until it is "our time".
__THE_WRATH__> One more thing, is the Hoary ever gonna come back?<Done
nei@turbine> *takes the easy way out* 2nd question: maybe.....
nei@turbine> kidding...
nei@turbine> "your time will come"....
nei@turbine> kidding again....
nei@turbine> "soon"
rei@Turbine> *kicks nei*
nei@turbine> it ryhmes with "soon"
rei@Turbine> kidding.
nei@turbine> lots of new spells - for all the schools of magic (though mostly war since they need a bit of lub)
nei@turbine> done.
RESiSTANCE_Ckiy> Yoyoyo, its like getting ticketZ for a sold out concert here. Heh, been camping on the sidewalk since yesterday getting my spot in this chat room
RESiSTANCE_Ckiy> If and when will be your planZ for quests and quest itemZ for player classes you have over looked or missed like the archer , xbow and vagabondZ?
RESiSTANCE_Ckiy> check out our clan site at http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/resistance/index.html
nei@turbine> thanks for the ad...
nei@turbine> archers and xbowyers get their desserts at the same time the mages do - this time ryhmes with "noon"
nei@turbine> vagabonds... well.... ya know.... they're vagabonds.
nei@turbine> done.
MxRacer_14> First off - I would like to say - thank you - thank you so much for creating a wonderful game...(semi-long cut/paste to follow)
MxRacer_14> When will you add more dungeons in Eastern Osteth? We need many more places for people to hunt Nortoriously there are 25+ people in all the good dugeons where you can hunt Above ground hunting is difficult to say the least - the number of...
MxRacer_14> monsters running loose has been increased - but this also increase "lag" due to the amount of information the clients computer must handle...
MxRacer_14> Can I get a job with you?? Evil Elvis RULES! -- shamless plug Thanks Guys - keep up the good work I am Fistandautilus - Harvestgain all the way! <ga
nei@turbine> davej sez:
nei@turbine> There's going to be a bunch of dungeons to alleviate the camping situation. All your favorite monsters to slay for fun and profit. When, you ask? Rhymes with "harpoon."
nei@turbine> DaveJ done
nei@turbine> (look at him and his fancy "punctuation" and "capitalization")
nei@turbine> showoff
rei@Turbine> I was thinking "loon" ("harpoon" has too many syllables).
rei@Turbine> I think we're done.
hi_fib> My question is regarding implementation of new trade skills and residency such as housing and secure trading, tired of watching people spam _____is a Thief, i want my stuff back only squelch so many peeps
hi_fib> *cough*, by choosing heritage you get benefit of skill and also benefit of easier requirements on armor/weapons/wwhat not, by choosing a heritage you accept consequences of skills too*cough
rei@Turbine> new trade skills: we'd like to do, not on immediate radar
rei@Turbine> residency: we'd like to do but the tech investment is huge ... really.
rei@Turbine> (still trying to find a good design for it)
rei@Turbine> Secure Trade! That's most likely to happen first.
rei@Turbine> I'm hoping we can get that in relatively soon, but I cannot give you a specific date for reasons I said earlier.
rei@Turbine> (relatively soon usually means a few months)
rei@Turbine> Done.
Fo0eY> Insert obligitory brown nose --- here <--- Is sticky melee working as it's supposed too...namely sticky pvp?
Fo0eY> I've done some testing and it seems run speed doesn't at all matter...this just doesn't seem fair to people with high run skills.{end.}
rei@Turbine> After a lot of testing, we generally found that run speed matters a lot....
nei@turbine> unofficial, off the cuff response
nei@turbine> (though i suppose in chat, it's officiall)
rei@Turbine> (that's nei in the second line)
nei@turbine> i've been playing far too much DT lately.... and it SEEMS like those nasty club swingers are catching up to me and riding on my tail just like i do to MOBs....
nei@turbine> i'll do a controlled test tomorrow when i get into work
nei@turbine> done
rei@Turbine> Let me wrap up what I was saying....
rei@Turbine> I generally found that if one was significantly slower, one got hit a lot more.
rei@Turbine> A very fast run would allow the monster to perhaps get in a swing or two, because the server figures you were near enough for that.
rei@Turbine> (could allow... depends on where you were relatively)
rei@Turbine> There are many many different factors, and a lot of it is based on perception and disagreements between what the client thinks and what the server thinsk.
rei@Turbine> thinks even
rei@Turbine> That said, if there are signs of real problems, we will definitely look into them.
rei@Turbine> (And I am not a server expert, though I'm playing one in the chat... jfyi)
rei@Turbine> done.
SubChaos> Amazing Amazing game. Thank you for saving me from EQ. 1)When purchasing spell components can you please have them go into their respective bags rather than into the main knapsack, and 2)ALLEGIANCE CHAT AND SECURE TRADING!! :)
SubChaos> Also, If you are going to acknoledge the existence of a bug you should risk abuse and take steps to repair the damage done.. One man's opinion..
SubChaos> Animus giving a big *bow* out to Elias, Warbong, Adam Jones and the rest of TOOL, and all of Frostfell!! WOO HOO!!
rei@Turbine> Hmm, I just inquired recently about having things go to respective containers for other types of actions.
rei@Turbine> It is technically difficult and could break the inventory system (etc.)
rei@Turbine> (I mean, given that bags could be moved and go away etc)
rei@Turbine> So it is unlikely to happen, but thank you for the suggestion.
rei@Turbine> Done.
MrSmashy> Will you be adding any monsters that give high levels a challenge? There should be some that require high levels to work together instead of just soloing
nei@turbine> heeheehee...
rei@Turbine> (rei joins in the cackling)
nei@turbine> i won't tell you about the evil evil bad things that are killing my poor admin on my computer right now.
nei@turbine> "why hello mr. new creature. why yes, i'm an admin... oh no... hey cut that out"
nei@turbine> hmm... "hey guys, he just hit me for 400"
rei@Turbine> Were those those horrible sounds I was hearing over here? The screaming and stuff?
nei@turbine> yeah, there are new monsters, big mean scary monsters coming.... you wanna know when? it rhymes with "saskatoon"
nei@turbine> done
letoile@turbine> Obviously, it will be in... by noon!
Xoltri> hello, good afternoon
Xoltri> As per the rules, my one question...
Xoltri> When I am fighting a group of enemies sometimes I will slide around back and forth, and even land in the middle of the group. "Sliding Melee". It's pretty annoying, and also dangerous (getting hit in the back). Is there a fix planned?
rei@Turbine> Some improvements have already gone in.
rei@Turbine> It may be that more need to go in (and it does get worse with lag)
rei@Turbine> So while there is no immediate fix, with reports like yours we are always looking to fix what we can.
rei@Turbine> err, no immediate fix in the bin right now.
rei@Turbine> Done.
Voxell> Waaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssssuppppppppppp? So what's up B.............Seriously i agree with MxRacer_14. Just add a BDC beside every town that would solve everything.....how that would fit into the story line i don't know......*now question*.....
Voxell> Hi there are you planning In the Future, Say after AC's story line has finished and your next game comes to release a Client Patch to play a Single Player game(None Zone,LAN option) I would imagine this would be a huge download, is there a possibility?
Voxell> done
rei@Turbine> Play AC as a singer player?
nei@turbine> um... *scratching head*
rei@Turbine> Is that the question?
rei@Turbine> err, single player
rei@Turbine> I don't think it will happen :)
nei@turbine> Turbine's raison d'etre is Massively Multiplayer. That's our bag. In other words, don't hold your breath for singleplayer AC...
nei@turbine> (That was DaveJ, done)
_stroker_> I would like to see is that Monarchs would be able to talk to all his followers at one time,and not to be resticted to only his vassels.Like it should be when your the King "Mustafa"
nei@turbine> (man, no using parentheses, those are mine... )
rei@Turbine> We would like to improve allegiance UI overall.
rei@Turbine> To be honest it is a huge undertaking.
rei@Turbine> So we will be drafting specs and looking into getting it in a little laster than "sometime soon."
rei@Turbine> Not just allegiance communication but other allegiance UI features.
rei@Turbine> (Ideally)
rei@Turbine> Done.
rei@Turbine> (later, not laster)
rei@Turbine> (I had no baking soda today)
Amusary> When will see places that have a restiction lvl to 50+ ,like a place that has a spawn rate like the Incunabula vault but filled with nobles and maybe a queen at the end, for us high lvl pp? and maybe a Sword that does bludg damage ?
Amusary> and i like to thx MrSmashy for taking my question , but the restiction thing is what i really mean , some place just for us high lvl pp and not places where the throw high lvl magic at ya neither
nei@turbine> *tries to think of a good word*
nei@turbine> how's about sometime in the month that rhymes with "saloon" or perhaps "basoon"?
rei@Turbine> Just say "soon," Jesse, and get it over with?
nei@turbine> done.
nei@turbine> i ain't even gotten started
treymule> The time on looting creatures needs to be more , when i'm fighting 8 soilders and when they are all dead .I go to loot ,there is some low lvl player looting my kills,after i did all the work
rei@Turbine> Sounds like a good suggestion to look into.
rei@Turbine> So let me jot it down in my handy dandy text file.
rei@Turbine> (I was thinking the same thing recently.)
rei@Turbine> Done.
letoile@turbine> I've often thought so as well. :)
nei@turbine> *points out that i was "saloon'ing" to the high level restrictions and not the blunt sword for clarity's sake*
sKUm_bIZKit> Arthur of Bloodlust from MT here. Firstly, I love the game. The best game ever. I've heard some rumors about Sword of Lost Light's status.. (Stats improving, req's lowering). Are they true? Considering swords are 2x better than it w/ lower req's...
sKUm_bIZKit> "noon".. you guys are a riot.. ehhe.. SHout out to the Dasterdly allegience of MT!
sKUm_bIZKit> {done}
cfoster@Turbine> (we're huddling)
rei@Turbine> Did we mention Foster's here?
cfoster@Turbine> Sorry I'm late, folks. I was attacked by ninjas en route to my PC. It's been happening lately.
rei@Turbine> SoLL got a small boost this month, and there are some ideas that L'Etoile has for it that sound pretty cool.
rei@Turbine> In other words more changes likely.
rei@Turbine> Done.
joncrowl> For a semi-retired/part time sword user, the new rapiers look nice.BUT! What are the chances of getting new spear types? IE Halberd, Ranseur, Awl-Pike or Glaive or some other type? (I know they aren't EXACTLY the same weapon type, but close enough.....
joncrowl> unless you want to code a new weapon type) ps 275 deaths at lvl 34 and counting! GA
nei@turbine> here comes my ponk rocking cohort, davej
rei@Turbine> (watch nei's capitalization improve)
nei@turbine> I'm looking over maces and spears for an upcoming prop. Right now I'm looking at new types, like maybe a naginata or a spiked club. When will you get these? No promises, but it rhymes with "poke in the eye". Hopefully.
nei@turbine> Done.
DoctorLW> Hey, great job on AC. I live on Darktide, and it is tough being a mage there ;). Anyways down to my jumbled up question...
letoile@turbine> He is, however, a lousy rhymer.
DoctorLW> I am happy to see that from a previous question that you are in fact adding new war magic spells. At last! (PvP oriented I hope) ;) But I was wondering more importantly if there are any quests for mages coming up? More importantly wand quests...
DoctorLW> ...(Wand quests because "Wand-Monkeying" is the only chance for mages to have a decent chance at killing an opponent right now ;) Currently, there is only the Impious Staff quest, but that is only for Gharudanims. Of course, if the new war...
DoctorLW> ...spells ARE PvP oriented please elaborate on that instead ;). Thanks =). (GA)
DoctorLW> whew
rei@Turbine> (PvP is near and dear to Jesse's heart.)
letoile@turbine> I've never heard a PvP'er actually ask for new wands before. :)
nei@turbine> right now, of the 4 classes of coming war spells, 1 is geared specifically for PK-action. i can't really see why it'd be used elsewere really.... (and you're not going to get an Imperil 6 wand...)
nei@turbine> so neener.
nei@turbine> done.
nei@turbine> oh wait!! i forgot, sometime in the month that rhymes with "baboon"!
rei@Turbine> "loon." did I say "loon" already? (oops)
cfoster@Turbine> Au clair de la lune...
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Hi Jacko, do you have a question for the team?
letoile@turbine> SPOON!
cfoster@Turbine> pontoon
rei@Turbine> goosn.
rei@Turbine> errr, goons
nei@turbine> step off my dealie
letoile@turbine> Maroon.
rei@Turbine> spittoon?
cfoster@Turbine> shampooin'
letoile@turbine> Next!
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Hi DragaoOuro. Do you have a question for the team?
rei@Turbine> Please, before the bad rhymes continue.
Izeman00> Bah! its been touched on already, but still, it needs to be emphasized, I'll paste it anyways. *someone wants to ask btw: female characters need mustaches. ... hhaha..* pastes coming..
Izeman00> Congrats on a great game, thanks for your hard work. Incubula / Ob. Plains (during Umbris) were excellent additions to the game. They provided a serious challenge to anyone from levels 30-60. After completing monthly content, these type places make
Izeman00> the game worth playing. However, Incubula is showing strong signs of overpopulation yielding a "tunnels" type situation, and the plains are really hurting with the huge reduction in Umbris. I assume in terms of adding complex content or quests
Izeman00> versus adding another Incubula-type dungeon or increasing the density of monsters in remote direlands locations, the latter is easier. I am challenging you to build a dungeon or area we can't beat. I thought Incbula was it as I imagine you did, the coun
Izeman00> is 190 Olthoi Soldiers but it wasn't enough. From high level soloers to mid level parties, we love Incubula, but in another month or two it will be like LoD, picked clean....so, will you accept the challenge?
Izeman00> Finally, thanks for solving the X.X.177.154 problem, you know who you are.
Izeman00> i still need that address instructions for the BBQ (done)
rei@Turbine> He's asking for more bad rhymes, methinks.
cfoster@Turbine> BBQ'in
nei@turbine> DaveJ speaking on Nei's machine. Yes we accept the challenge. You will have our response very quickly. Probably in June.
nei@turbine> That's right, I said it.
nei@turbine> Done
rei@Turbine> June rhymes with ... hey.
nei@turbine> no more using my keyboard for him
traggert> I agree with Izeman00...bring it on! Great game, thanks! I couldn't decide, so Turbines's Choice..please pick the one to answer (only 3 pastes):
traggert> #1 I would pay up to $30/mo for a premium server or a onetime say $70 registration fee for acces to a premium server, is this a viable solution? Or what does it take to get another server? I would sacrifice content for 3-4 months for a new server!
traggert> #2 I love the Sturdy Iron Key solution, but heck if it didnt nerf Lockpicking. But uber chests spawning parchment or fish with no loot over level II? Rare drop item, long run to semi-hard chest, and I get fish?
traggert> #3 Love the XP code (I'm a life mage actually), PLEASE implement it, I know its being tested, but it didnt fix the XP (5500xp) from the perch in Incubula. Odds on this code, after modification making it in?
traggert> YES on the components and the bags! How about just fixing the 50 unit problem and make them auto merge into a stack up to say 150 units? Yes on the allegiance improvements!
traggert> done
rei@Turbine> I think the first one is a question?
rei@Turbine> (Noting your other comments)
rei@Turbine> I don't think it's very likely there will be such a service....
rei@Turbine> But it is really not our specialty topic....
rei@Turbine> Done.
TMeister> I just want you to know that AC has pretty much destroyed my life! But I have loved every second of it... Thanks! (and dont think Im a buffoon!)
TMeister> My Q: Talk to me about hotkeys: Are you ever going to allow users to have more than 9 item hotkeys? Here is what I really, really want: A super(macro?) hotkey that would equip a whole pouch of stuff all at once; (here is the kicker) then unequip would
TMeister> return all the items to the pouch that they came from!!!!!
nei@turbine> you rule! (re: the bufoon comment!)
TMeister> A Suggestion: When an item runs out of mana, why can you shade it with a red haze or something to make it easier to tell it has run out of mana... Oh - and the radar scope needs to be larger at higher resolutions. Done... 8^)
rei@Turbine> Returning objects to specific containers is something I just looked into recently.
rei@Turbine> It is a cool idea, but is technically involved and dangerous.
rei@Turbine> So while it'd be great to have more features like what you describe, they are not too likely in the immediate future.
rei@Turbine> Done.
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avalon_grey> Hey guys, once again great job on the prop event, you rock and we wub you all....Ok is there more to this event or is it realy just a down time, say "a calm before the storm". Or is the collective player base clueless of what to do to trigger the real eve
cfoster@Turbine> Go Penzoil!
nei@turbine> ack! coporate sponsorship!
avalon_grey> Short of the oswald/claude stuff (i.e. should we keep looking, or relax and enjoy the "calm") And thanks for the hint that the good stuff happens when it rhymes with "Maroon" Let DAI into the chats...:) -Ket <GA
rei@Turbine> Enjoy the calm for now....
rei@Turbine> (can't think of a good rhyming word right now, oh well)
cfoster@Turbine> ... and the spellbar. :)
rei@Turbine> Done.
fearGod1> Hail all! Great game. Any chance Asheron will be teleporting "new" races into Dereth to help with the struggle? Also, will we be seeing BANKS soon? Many of us would like to use our slots for "real" characters. ((Sorry if these are repeat questions...)) ga
rei@Turbine> Races are not on the horizon at the moment, though they would be very cool.
rei@Turbine> There is a lot of investment in new heritage-group specific items, as you can see from the variety we have for the 3 already in-game.
rei@Turbine> Items & artwork, etc.
rei@Turbine> Done.
SuperPansy> The only thing that makes this game boring at all is the AI. Players are forced to fight monsters that don't even have an IQ equivalent to a warrior's. If you were to put ONE person on this job for a month straight it would make an incredible...
SuperPansy> difference and make the game much more intersting and enjoyable. Some people would even do it for free! About when can we expect to see this? After Final? Perhaps when the new graphics engine is implemented? [GA]
SuperPansy> PS - Dair rules :)
SuperPansy> Dai, too
rei@Turbine> IQ equivalent to a warrior's? Ow.
nei@turbine> *cough* PK *cough cough*
cfoster@Turbine> Trust us, if this was a one-man-month problem, we'd probably have made more significant changes by now.
cfoster@Turbine> In order for AI to be radically changed, the entire world model would have to change just as radically.
cfoster@Turbine> Which means LOTS of work.
cfoster@Turbine> Simply put, a good AI system is defined as much by the environment as by any "smartness" in the code.
cfoster@Turbine> done
Guyver_3_Unit> First off Great Game, but my question is, and am sure ya love this one, What are you ever going to do with thrown weapon? I spent 12 credits on day one to specalize it, and it is worthless.
Guyver_3_Unit> I cannot cast on them but one at a time not in a bundle, and there are no good ones to be bought, and never any enchanted ones to be found. If ya going do nothing then get rid of it and at least
Guyver_3_Unit> Give me some of the 12 points back. I am a monarch, so i don't want to delete the character, but man do i feel stupid for taking something that looked really cool back in november. TY
nei@turbine> ooh ooh... thrown weapons!
Guyver_3_Unit> and please nothing that rymes with soon
cfoster@Turbine> brigadoon.
cfoster@Turbine> damn.
cfoster@Turbine> sorry.
rei@Turbine> *slaps foster*
nei@turbine> this is actually on the same whiteboard that held our past loves...
nei@turbine> they're actually getting something.
nei@turbine> sadly, it doesn't rhyme with "pantaloon"
nei@turbine> or "squirt lemon in your eye"
nei@turbine> done.
Evil_Elvis_> Mwahahhahaha.... um... Long....
Evil_Elvis_> Just want to say, You guys have done a good job with AC, its a step foreward in the MMORPG genre from its predecessors.
Evil_Elvis_> However, there still exist some gameplay issues 6 months post-Retail that have not been resolved, and issues that are created by new patches.
Evil_Elvis_> I understand that patching is a dynamic process, and nobody is perfect when it comes to implementing something for 12000 unique minds, but
Evil_Elvis_> The past few patches have shown dramatic changes to gameplay, something that may be necessary for game balance, but something that should have been done during the Beta Process.
Evil_Elvis_> Simply looking at the way the Gameplay, Skeletal Animation, and Combat System will work in the UO2 Trailer, at http://www.xdrive.com/share/957994423QvDYFSrLvFl53JHKrcESYG1 (use view)
Evil_Elvis_> How do you all plan on keeping your product Feature Rich, Expansive, and Dynamic enough to compete with this in the future? GA
cfoster@Turbine> wow. An interesting question.
cfoster@Turbine> Realistically, there's a point at which a game has to concentrate on improving what it does best, and not trying to become a completely different game.
cfoster@Turbine> UO2 is a radical departure from UO, as its team itself has said...
cfoster@Turbine> ... in large part because that's the only way you can take the game in such new directions; you have to break the mold, and start a new.
cfoster@Turbine> AC is a living, thriving world, with plenty of ways to expand and improve.
cfoster@Turbine> Just don't expect dancing Meers and Jukas anytime soon. :)
cfoster@Turbine> (done)
m_hael1> (short)
m_hael1> Dear Devs. I'm going to sound like a real @ss, but what do you plan on doing after AC gets demolished by UO2?
m_hael1> Done
nei@turbine> going back to weaving in the woods?
rei@Turbine> Rhyming.
nei@turbine> DaveJ is planning on becoming a tropical dictator.
rei@Turbine> Hmmm, more baking soda....
cfoster@Turbine> Not saying. :p
rei@Turbine> I'll start a baking soda empire.
Shane_Johnson> Good evening, one feature I'd like to see added, is that if a Vassal/Patron/Monarch signs on/off you're notified, just like the friends list... perhaps @friends add vassals or similar command to free up some friend slots for us. But my question....
Shane_Johnson> Can we get a complete map availible to download when there's an update instead of the individual downloads each time? I've got DSL and I hate the DL time when I go someplace new or updated. Also, can we update the F10 map so it's the real thing?
cfoster@Turbine> I'll take this one.
cfoster@Turbine> Optimizing downloads for broadband isn't a high priority right now, given that lotsa users are running on slower connections. So I don't think we'd be changing the system anytime soon. Sorry (done)
cfoster@Turbine> oops -- one more thing
cfoster@Turbine> I'm not sure exactly when you'll get the latest update, but the F10 map IS being irregularly updated to sync with events.
cfoster@Turbine> (really done)
Mr_Nox> With information so readily available on the internet how are you going to keep events and quests mysterious and interesting in the future also are there any plans to open new lands e.g. Asheron's Isle. Also a suggestion with residences what about...
Mr_Nox> Portal Orbs you buy then in town and use them in your local meeting hall to whisk you to your mansion (pyreals allowing) and maybe special ones that allow a fellowship or guild to use the same one. eg. A guild vault..
cfoster@Turbine> Everyone, please: Only One Question Per Person.
rei@Turbine> Yes there are very serious plans for opening up new islands.
rei@Turbine> Done.
Holy_Dragon> For thrown weapons maybe you can make a reusable or returnable thrown weapon that can have item cast on it (like a boomerang maybe). now my question (continued)
Holy_Dragon> are you going to make new armored helms guaults and shoes the ones now are getting old
rei@Turbine> Yes, we'd like to do some of that.
cfoster@Turbine> (we're comparing fashions over here)
rei@Turbine> For example last chat (?) I think someone brought up boots (or was that somewhere else?)
rei@Turbine> It isn't very high up on the priority list, though....
rei@Turbine> I mean compared to new spells and so on....
rei@Turbine> So, not immediately, but it's on the list.
cfoster@Turbine> We mix in new clothing with other content; it adds flavor, but is a drain on resources.
rei@Turbine> Yes, what Foster said.
cfoster@Turbine> So as Eri says, it's on the list.
cfoster@Turbine> What she said.
rei@Turbine> Stop that.
rei@Turbine> Done.
cfoster@Turbine> What we said. (bows)
eyl7720> 1) With the recent changes to magic D and the specing changes taking place, do you understand the imbalance that will happen with the people that already have 270 buffed magic D speced on Darktide? This will potentially create a "flavor of the week" char
eyl7720> and another great imbalance *cough*matty robe*cough* to the game. Are there any plans to balance this out?
eyl7720> 2) What's up with people being able to hit people during the portaling process? Is this going to be fixed? (PK Question)
nei@turbine> welcome to PK balancing land... the place of icky things and grouchy people.
cfoster@Turbine> NOT vice versa.
nei@turbine> we've said time and time again that the game was made for NPK and PK is of lesser priority...
nei@turbine> BUT!!!
nei@turbine> with lil ol' me's new found DT addiction, i think there's going to be lots more pushing in attempts to balance.
nei@turbine> and yes, i know that 270 magic D is a pain, but it's a decision that that player made to dump a LOT of xp into the skill... let them be godly for awhile... something always comes along later that'll take em down a notch
nei@turbine> done.
McFrugal> Are there any plans to enhance the Dagger skill? I've noticed that all the elemental daggers are weak compared to the other weapon types. A Stiletto would be nice, too. Oh, and please don't give us another weapon like Oswald's Dagger.
McFrugal> Deception Mastery VI? Bleagh. GA
rei@Turbine> We are interested in balancing out all the melee classes, working in order of most-in-need.
rei@Turbine> obviously new weapons are very cool, and as you see we are kicking ideas around for various new weapons.
rei@Turbine> So, dagger is not on the immediate list, but it is on the radar, definitely.
rei@Turbine> Done.
ChrisHays> Although I am quite interested in trying Player-versus-Player combat, I have no intention of particpating at this time due to the current options available...
ChrisHays> I am completely disgusted with the immature behaviors of a small but increasingly visible group of snotnosed punks who see PK as a license for random sneak attacks on low-level players, looting and verbal harassment...
ChrisHays> Since entering their Quake-Frag-Fest world doesn't appeal to me...
ChrisHays> I'm interested to know if you're planning on implementing something in AC 1.0 along the line of duels or allegience wars, wherein I am able to choose my opponents without opening myself up to constant harassment by the idiots.
ChrisHays> (done)
rei@Turbine> AC 1.0?
rei@Turbine> I'd like to do duels and/or allegiance wars.
rei@Turbine> Allegiance wars have some SERIOUS server-side issues though.
rei@Turbine> Neither is likely to happen very soon, but it is on our want-list.
rei@Turbine> Done.
Purrpetual> Turbine has demonstrated a pattern of removing content from AC that is tied to an event or is considered overpowered...
Purrpetual> Examples: Significant portions of Frore (including Tremblant's Staff), Hoary Mattekars (and hence the robes), Gertarh's Dagger, and most recently the Nexus Crystal (and hence the Nexus armor)...
Purrpetual> As most things that are removed are only obtainable by high-level characters, this trend significantly encourages powerleveling (Have to hurry up, lest we miss something when Turbine removes it from Dereth forever)...
Purrpetual> Given the correlation between powerleveling and burnout, it seems you're running the risk of losing customers at an increasing rate if this continues...
Purrpetual> What are your current plans to address the common perception that anything might disappear from Dereth at any moment and the resulting pressure to powerlevel? <done
nei@turbine> welcome to the dynamic world where things can and do change ....
cfoster@Turbine> the idea is that while you may have missed out on something in the past, there'll be something at least as compelling in the future.
cfoster@Turbine> The very thing that makes something rare is what makes it special.
cfoster@Turbine> (done)
Turboi85> Hey turbies, It was hard to come up with something that hasn't been asked yet, but here I go....
Turboi85> Server crowding: At peak times every day my ping triples, at least. And it gets worse in overcrowded dungeons. Are new servers on the horizon? In a month rhyming with spitoon? Please?
Turboi85> Oh and a comment to reinforce an earlier question- I really dislike having to fill a character slot with a mule.
Turboi85> One more thing: I am a God {Done}
+MrQuazarr@Zone> We are closely monitoring the performance of all worlds. We want to first make sure that no bugs are causing problems otherwise we just have 7 worlds with lag, or 8, or....
Qwertypie> Well, since Eyl stole my question that i pasted, here goes.....
Qwertypie> Since mages are widely seen as the ultimate tank class because of the high level magic protects and banes(to which there are no counters)
Qwertypie> Are there any plans to implement the ability to target a persons armor and brittlemail and/or lure it(why have the spells if they are not useable?) this would go a long way to bringing mages in line in regards to balance...
Qwertypie> -Shollos,Darktide(the only REAL server, all you cry babies should try getting past lvl 2 in shoushi) btw, irc.themercs.org #themercs =ghay:P
nei@turbine> i'd LOVE to be able to do this.... but i have no clue about the tech required for it.
nei@turbine> watch as i push evil DT affecting changes through the pipe.
nei@turbine> the targetting UI doesn't handle individual pieces (at all) right now
nei@turbine> done
TristanDarkwind> With the new pvp war magic will you please keep in mind the sword Swingers of Darktide? If we cant run from a mage we die. You singe <insert mage name here for 3 damage with your peerless smoldering atlan sword(with bd5)! In other words please dont give
TristanDarkwind> the mages tracking nuclear warheads. thanks.
TristanDarkwind> done.
nei@turbine> they aren't getting seekers, don't fret.
nei@turbine> done.
TristanDarkwind> woohoo!
letoile@turbine> Heh. :)
nei@turbine> *points to the Z and C keys*
Twists> Hoi Gods ... I know, its more MS related, but can you tell me anything about new, blank server (not 'cause of lag but 'cause of exploit-using lvl70chars, unbalanced items...) and/or European (German) Sales? ... Greets, Twist. http://www.asheron.de [done]
cfoster@Turbine> Ken? I think you've covered all the server info you have to give, right?
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Yep, what I know I have stated... More news will be published on State of the Code as we get it.
EBWolfMiG> Hello, First thing, my suggestion, how about a feature to un-train skills that were trained after our character was made and get our skill credits back and the xp we put into the skill would be lost and returned to its orignal untrained skill number
EBWolfMiG> my question is why has noble loot been so bad lately
nei@turbine> noble loot hasn't changed.
nei@turbine> you've had a bad streak...
nei@turbine> that's all there is to say about that.
nei@turbine> done.
Janos_Lin> Hello, umm I'd like to make an few comments before asking my question, bear with me and I wont be long :)
Janos_Lin> First of all, being a cheifly an blademaster, rapiers are a nice addition, but albeit, limited to really affecting a certain class of monsters, and we already have piercing damage with all swords. Tests have shown that the lowest setting does the most ov
Janos_Lin> does the most overall damage and that is precisely where the piercing damage is. We don't really want rapiers dont see too many fencing compeitions out there.. what's next? Musteeker uniforms? :P What we REALLY want is a sword that does BLUDGEONING damag
Janos_Lin> damage. And yes such swords do exist, they simply dont have an edge, altough I cannot recall the name presently. Even a circular piece of steel will do, akin to the wooden swords used in some karate classes, but made of metal.
Janos_Lin> Secondly, More dunegons would be helpful, and we need some with even more challenging higher lv monsters. Considering the general population is getting well in its 30's and 40's most of the once elite dunegons are becoming more and more camped.
Janos_Lin> Thirdly, please raise the ground spawn quality in BDC, al 50 chainmail sleeves arent worth much my friends... value was only 500 or so.
Janos_Lin> Why did u make the greater shadow amuli so ugly... brown and gold doesnt exactly rock my boat, how about sliver/blue or purple/gold or something appealing, to go along with the great difficulty in obtaining the armor, it should be something we're proud of
Janos_Lin> not my question tho...)
Janos_Lin> Anyways my question is, are you going to add more circles of magic? The highest we can attain now is lv 6. and since lv 6 starts at roughly 250 magic skill, that leaves 2 more possible circles. I think this is necessary as more and more challenging higher
Janos_Lin> lv monsters will need to be added for the existing high lv population. Highest I know of is lv 70 whom is none other than Mythrandia herself. I also relaize this may be quite out of reach of most people's skills but might still be possible at the same tim
letoile@turbine> *cough* ONE QUESTION. k thx.
Janos_Lin> Slap BD 8 and SK 8 on the overlord sword and youve got a kick ass sword :)
nei@turbine> yes.
nei@turbine> done
lucidconcepts> Greeting Girelle M'aloth here from - http://asheron.abands.com - Now Web Home To AC's largest Monarchy - The Killean Monarchy Morningthaw Don't you think there have been enough collecting quests? Motes, specs, shards, wood golem heart for Dagger of Ti
lucidconcepts> and now the sturdy iron keys....Some of us don't like selectively killing mass ammounts of monsters hoping the 1/100 drop rate will finally bless us. Can you promise me that future updates won't include these and will make attempts at a broader kind
lucidconcepts> 2# The shadow resistance is unbelivable still I thought magic resistance was tweaked. Even with a war magic of 240 I hit maybe 1 time in every 20 shots. Greets to wyveric, ryo-ohki, mo-of-wig, and all of IRC Effnet #asheronscall DONE
cfoster@Turbine> We're shifting the nature of quests.
cfoster@Turbine> The iron keys were an attempt to deal with the existing chests in the world, which were getting camped; they aren't our favorite model for future content.
cfoster@Turbine> (done)
Lord_Chewie> Hey Turbine! OK, first of all, your game is VERY "Crack-a-liscious"! Ok, question WIF a comment! *AHEM* I have noticed that the new Anti-Camping system is well under way. However, instead of 50 d33ds camping a chest 5 hours to get one pull, we see now
Lord_Chewie> so many guys trying to use their 50 keys! What do you guys think so far about how ths new system works? And to hell with bow quests!
Lord_Chewie> ty!
Lord_Chewie> noq
letoile@turbine> Well, the good thing about the new system is that the keys allowed us to up chest respawn to something like 60 seconds....
letoile@turbine> So we end up with people hunting all over the green earth for keys, rather than in one place and arguing over who goes now and who waits another 20 min for the next batch.
letoile@turbine> If we can increase flow-through, that's positive. Perfect? Hell no. Nothing ever is. It's better, and that's a start.
letoile@turbine> *done*
Polarbear007> According to the ability screen, some skills like healing, cooking, and the four classes of magic are called "unusable skills" if player does not invest any training point. However, certain creature-magic-bearing items, for example, a wand or a glove
Polarbear007> enable player to use those skills without any previous training I think this is as unfair as using quarrel with a bow (btw, thanks for fixing that). For example, I have to invest 12 points in training …. enable player to use those skills without any pre
Polarbear007> training I think this is as unfair as using quarrel with a bow (btw, thanks for fixing that). For example, I have to invest 12 points in training …. training I think this is as unfair as using quarrel with a bow (btw, thanks for fixing that). For examp
Polarbear007> Darn
rei@Turbine> I think I understand what you're saying.
cfoster@Turbine> Me too. :)
letoile@turbine> Rei is typing so fast, it sounds like all of Riverdance is in the office!
+MrQuazarr@Zone> LOL
cfoster@Turbine> The goal was to designate certain special skills as unused, to maintain balance.
rei@Turbine> (Letting Foster take it, L'Etoile :)
cfoster@Turbine> It was recognition of how powerful these skills could be -- more to the point, how much they REDEFINE a player with new abilities
cfoster@Turbine> (done)
+MrQuazarr@Zone> Swippen will have to be our last question for this evening....
Swippen> Hi there! love the game! I am Swipfellow of Leafcull (nordic tribe leader) my question is:
Swippen> I have this pretty high lockpick skill and have been looking for good chests or such to open or doors to pass.. but there are not any good stuff after the sturdy iron keys update.. what will it be of the lockpick skill?? "and please secure trade" [GA]
cfoster@Turbine> (oops -- missed part of your question, Polarbear)
nei@turbine> There will be more stuff soon to make lockpickers feel appreciated. Just wait for us to add more content. Perhaps in "monsoon" season...
nei@turbine> Done
cfoster@Turbine> Just to wrap that one up, yes, we're looking into the fact that treasure buffs some unused skills, but not others. More word as we have a plan.
cfoster@Turbine> (sorry 'bout that, P)
+MrQuazarr@Zone> I would like to thank you all for coming out this evening... Thanks again to Turbine for sharing a few hours with the players...
nei@turbine> oh pssh, i suppose it's time to give the props to the silly cutie pies on irc... i do so lub em
+MrQuazarr@Zone> We hope to see you all again next month... what month is that again?
cfoster@Turbine> thanks to everyone -- especially my patron on T-down!
letoile@turbine> SPOON!
rei@Turbine> Poke-our-eyes-out month.
cfoster@Turbine> lampoon
cfoster@Turbine> 'night!
rei@Turbine> Thanks everyon!!
rei@Turbine> Everyone, even.
nei@turbine> nighties
rei@Turbine> *stumbles over to the baking soda box*
rei@Turbine> Sean H says good night too :)
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